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, though, like ronald reagan, in his re-election effort, the unemployment rate had gone -- gone down by 1.4%. >> gregg: from 10.8% down to 7% and after his re-election down to 5. >> the last year prior went down 1.4 point and now, it has gone down 1.2 points and momentum is important and where you are, is not where we want to be but people can sense the momentum and see where it is going. >> gregg: john, you brought up the reagan comparison and he had interest rates almost 20% and runaway inflation and none of that afflicted this particular president. in fact, you know, the unemployment rate for ronald reagan was higher and the unemployment rate for the president. >> well, it went to 10.8, i believe... and i mean, if you are saying that ronald reagan inherited a worse economy. >> gregg: he did. >> i don't know how you can make the argument. >> gregg: are you kidding. >> we lost 800,000 jobs. >> gregg: unemployment was higher, inflation was higher and interest rates were higher. >> in twa2009, january we lost 741,000 jobs and if that trend continued, we almost had a second great depression

's reagan?" you have got to be kidding. the reality is no, he's not ronald reagan. ronald reagan had core values. you saw those in the debates. you saw that in his life. i don't think barack obama has core values at all. he listens to whoever is talking to him and espouses the talking points. is barack obama ronald reagan? i know ronald reagan. he was my father and friend. barack is no ronald reagan thank god. megyn: we had scott on a couple weeks ago when he was one of the lone pollsters showing this a tight race. whenever that seems to happen, scott, they seem to take shots at you as somebody who is not reliable and does haven't good polls. even though -- even though now all these polls are showing what you are showing -- the republicans put out today a list of the polls that show this race tightening and it's across the pollsters showing this race tightening in all the states you mention. despite here, here is what chuck todd said about you. >> we spent a lot more money polling than scott rasmussen does. >> he was right the last couple elections. >> he got it right at the end. you guys

for this microphone was one of ronald reagan's breakthrough moments, the weird moment with clint eastwood may be that as well. >> the big knock against governor romney here is that he walked away from a $5 trillion tax cut plan. he assumes that tax cuts for growth to make the math work, simpson-bowles says his math doesn't add up. that something has to give. you explode the deficit, raise middle class tax cuts, something has to give which is the point that rob was trying to make. >> something has to give. and mike just said maybe the thing that gives is mortgage interest deduction. the single most important thing to middle class american families. and that's going to be -- and we'll get to this later -- that will be a challenge for paul ryan. but, you know, i think that what we are experiencing right now, and we just said it, is that this sort of style over substance is -- i don't think it's going to overtake this race. i think you had a president who was trying to move the facts out. was facing a guy who he hasn't seen before. either mitt romney is completely faking everything he said or he

and the fights between the democrats and republicans, and ronald reagan came into office and they looked at social security, he appointed the bipartisan commission. in 1983, they moved it forward past legislation and reformed social security. so those are the kind of things i've seen it when i was governor. we brought democrats and republicans together. we made the commitment to rebuild california. we did all of our progress in reducing the greenhouse gas and maging a commitment to 33% of renewables by the year 2020 and stem-cell research and in 2005 when i thought i can go off by myself and it's my way or the highway just with the republican party, we going to grind it out. it failed miserably. and so i learned firsthand, that the only action is, is when both parties come together. >> former governor of california, you understand demographic shifts in the country very well. the latino population very well. dilute the midwest and the rest of the country. the reality is that as a party, republicans are going to be doomed if they don't find a way to court hispanics in a way to really appea

's acceleration, momentum on the unemployment rate. >> we cover elections here, not economics generally. ronald reagan was re-elected with a 7.2 unemployment rate. he set up the dynamic and the pr was honest. optimism is what he sold. he was able to say 7.2 is great news, great news. he got re-elected with $49 state. he lost minnesota and the district of columbia with 7.2. what should obama get with 7.8? it seems like it's within the range there and everybody's poo-poo'ing it. oh, geez, i know why jack welch is scared that number is too damn close to reagan's number. that's probably what he's worried about. >> how this works with the president's narrative, we're moving in the right direction, don't change horses, don't go back to a playbook that didn't work, the george bush supply side stuff that i think he can legitimately tie to mitt romney. he had a narrative that says the economy is monthing in the right direction. i think this job report actually strengthens that narrative. much more than levels variables, like the level of the unemployment rate, it's momentum that i think forms voters' vi

are unfamiliar with sul vesullivan a church, he suggestd thht obama is democrats ronald reagan, his latest piece, blasting the president, he is so disappointed with the president, too arrogant to take a core campaign responsibility seriously, that is to actually prepare for a debate. to arrogant to give his supporters what they deserve, hopefully this serves as a lesson toers to news week. a major restaurant chain, testing out new policy of cuts back on full-time jobs to limit financial impact of obama car, darden, restaurants, that own olive garden, and red lobster is no longer offeringfuingful time schedules. they face fines, and their there is an experiment with part-time workers. >> romney and president, in ohio, one of 8 swing states that could decide the election. since this data shows, income continued to drop last year, dropping in most battle ground states, except iowa and wisconsin, florida hardest hit. >> associated press, under fire for taking what critics call a cheap shot against governor romney, posted -- look at this, this image with governor romney bending over in front of a sur

ronald reagan. he was making a speech that talked about not just with pretty words but with policies, where he understands america can use the economic power to influence events and help shape world events, use our economic power in the sense of phone aid, if we get it, we want something back. but he talked about american military, he talked about, for example, putting aircraft carrier groups and men in the gulf, using economic warfare against iran using sanctions, tightening the sanctions and he realizes like reagan, that the notion of peace through strength is not just a throw away line but have a strong military so you never have to use it because no one picks a fight with you. >>eric: let me give you another soundbite talking about cutting off aid to egypt if we need to. that was in the introduction, sorry. we also have one where he talked about potentially how we should deal with libya. are you satisfied with what you heard? >>guest: what he has talked about doing is understanding events have happened. he was not angry and did not say you have done this wrong, obama, or that wro

in '85. >> well, look aat athe job -- >> thank ronald reagan. >> absolutely. that's why romney's tax plan is want plan we need. lower rates broaden the base. it worked in '86, '87, '88. worked in '81 and '82. let's pause there for a second. >> thanks for the lead-in about reagan. >> romney has victory in the deba debate. every single poll shows he's picked up 5, 6, 7 points. some of these local battleground states picked up 8, 9 points. is does that change your stock market outlook from bear to bull? >> you get rid of obama care and 3.8% tax on investment income and get the tax on medical device makers, larry. >> i will bet you $20 right now. i'll make a romney $10,000 bet that obama care is not repealed. >> i'll bet you it will be repealed, but i'll buy a gift for your new daughter. >> thank you. >> if romney wins, which was not expected a week ago but is now more expected, if he wins what is the stock market impact? is it greater than earnings and the federal reserve? how do you assess a romney victory? >> what becomes important is the effect on capital gains and dividend taxes. we as i

and derailed laterr the entire term. and fast forward to 1980, jimmie carter against ronald reagan. and big story was the hostage release gave birth to night line and also birth to the american wondering would today be the day. october day right before the election came the release of the hostages. >> steve: surprise was, that republicans thought jimmie carter was sitting on the release of the hostages. he worked out a deal with the iranian to get them loose. he hadn't . 144 days and ronald reagan they were. >> gretchen: on the day of inauguration of ronald reagan. it feels like 2000, bush-gore. five-days came the revelation that george bush was arrested for an old drunk while driving. >> brian: dwi. driving while intoxicate the poems close we saw what happened. two monthses of not knowing who the president was. >> steve: two months later president bush squaring off with john kerry. and osama bin laden tape just a few days before election. john kerry told the associated press it changed the entire dynamic andagitated people over 9/11 . of course, john kerry lostt. >> brian: but kerry though

across the table. it's been done before. i saw it done with our wonderful ronald reagan, a conservative from california, and the liberal democrat tip o'neill from massachusetts. that's what we need more of, and that's what i've done in washington. senator obama has never taken on his party leaders on a single major issue. i've taken them on. i'm not too popular sometimes with my own party, much less his. so medicare, it's going to be a little tougher. it's going to be a little tougher because we're talking about very complex and difficult issues. my friends, what we have to do with medicare is have a commission, have the smartest people in america come together, come up with recommendations, and then, like the base-closing commission idea we had, then we should have congress vote up or down. let's not let them fool with it anymore. there's too much special interests and too many lobbyists working there. so let's have -- and let's have the american people say, "fix it for us." now, just back on this tax, you know, again, it's back to our first question here about rhetoric and record. sen

or became. um, the big issue, the big change began in 1980, of course, with the election of ronald reagan because ronald reagan brought with him to washington, um, a very underrated figure in recent american history, someone who i don't think gets his due as an important person, and that's edwin meese. because edwin meese at first as an adviser and then as attorney general said, look, there has been a liberal ayen da at the supreme court -- agenda at the supreme court, there needs to be a conservative agenda at the supreme court. what was that agenda? expand executive power, end racial preferences intended to assist african-americans, speed up execution, welcome religion into the public sphere and, above all, um, reverse roe v. wade and allow states once again to ban abortion. a big part of the reagan revolution, um, was the arrival in washington of a group of young and committed conservative lawyers who wanted to work in that, on behalf of that agenda. who were two of the best and brightest of that group? john roberts and samuel alito. 197 finish -- in 1985 in a memo plotting litigation

of bipartisanship, that he praised the fact that tip o'neill and ronald reagan had worked together when he has spent the last year sucking up to the tea party is something that the president should have -- >> here is robert gibbs defending the president on "meet the press." gibbs tried to tackle romney's debate flip-flops. i think he did it here. let's watch. >> it's not rocket science to believe that the president was disappointed in the expectations that he has for himself. but, look, i think part of that was because, as i said earlier, we met a new mitt romney. we met a mitt romney that wanted to walk away from the central theory of his economic plan which is his tax cut. i don't have a tax cut that's $4.8 trillion or $5 trillion. i'm not going to cut taxes on the rich. i don't have a medicare voucher plan. i love teachers, i think we need more of them. i mean, look, don't believe me, speaker gingrich was pretty eloquent in running during the primaries in saying, look, mitt romney will say absolutely anything to get elected. >> well, one thing i have been saying about the campaign is the presiden

gonistic. he didn't say ten words without mentioning ronald reagan. but stale message, just a typical republican campaign and i think virginia has heard enough of this. >> stephanie: take a listen to bill clinton yesterday. >> i thought . . . wow. [ laughter ] >> here is old moderate mitt. [ laughter ] >> where you been boy? [ laughter ] >> stephanie: he president has to get a little of that mojo going into the next debate don't you think? >> oh, absolutely. i would just turn to him and say who are you? [ laughter ] >> stephanie: barack obama is a human being just like the rest of us. he is president of the united states, and debating you know, is a difficult thing. do i think he was prepared? no, i do not. but he made some mistakes there, but he is going to clean it up -- >> stephanie: yeah. mudcat how much do you think joe biden will be able to clean up tonight. obviously now that it has been so fact checked and there have been so many egregious outright statements. is joe biden going to be able to come at paul ryan with that? >> oh, yeah. it's his nature to go afte

in europe since 1945 i think i would credit the u.s. military, ronald reagan and the a-bomb. >> right. >> more than i would the eu and the bureaucrats in brussels. >> we bail them out. we protectioned them all those years and reagan's the guy that ended communism, but the head of the peace prize committee is blaming the united states for the european economic crisis. i read "the new york times" story incredulously. he said the demise of lehman brothers is the responsibility of the european crisis, not their overspending and not their overtaxes and not their excess government and not their excess entitlements, jimmy. it's all because of lehman brothers. >> listen. you have countries that are following every wrong thing to do to run a good economy and even what they're doing now, they're raising taxes. this is like a death wish and a suicide attempt by europe and not america's fault. >> i want to ask you which is worse? the peace prize to president obama in 2009 or giving the peace prize to the european union, which is worse? >> as a gambler would say that is a pick 'em situation. >> yo

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of a woman he first met in elementary school. like every campaign that cross swords with ronald reagan, chicago's arrogance blew up in their face. the question is whether barack obama will suffer the same fate as governor pat brown and president jim my carter. the answer to that question is anyone's guess. >> joe, when you write i picture clive owen and "love actually" when he's typing on the twirt. >> actually he's hunched over a computer. >> it's an ascot. >> just that whole scenic thing. >> do you have a pipe? >> good column. >> thank you. we would the big question before, mike, whether mitt romney was up to it before the debate. it was a fascinating question. can this guy that saved and turn around other organizations, can he not save himself? the great question being asked by democrats now, did we buy into something that wasn't what we thought we got? can he rise to the challenge? i personal think barack obama is going to answer the bell and do very well. >> definitely. >> i think the big problem is they were so arrogant, the entire operation, toward mitt romney. >> no doubt. >> n

through this week in overton who seem toe think the best thing about george bush is he not ronald reagan. >>> largely as a result of the policies and priorities of the reagan administration more people are becoming poor and staying poor in this country than anytime since world war ii. ♪ . >> if there is thinking left to ronald reagan's trickle down theory, done, it seems to be anxiety which seems to be trickng down through just about every segment of our society. ♪ . >> if you gave clarence thomas a little flower on his face you would think you had david duke talking. here is a man who, is against everything that has lifted the level of life of millions of blacks. ♪ . >> i hope his wife feeds him lots of eggs and butter and dies like many black men do of heart disease. that is how i feel. he is absolutely reprehensible person. ♪ . >> you've called gingrich and his ilk, your words, trickle down terrorists who base their agenda on exclusion, and fear. do you think middle class americans are in need of protection from that group? ♪ . >> the new republican majority in congress took

and strength as you know the governor reprieves quite frankly was ronald reagan's thing. and ronald reagan didn't go to war with the soviets. he actually was the one that convinced the soviets that it was pointless to go to war with us. to try to out build us. the real issue here is how credible is the united states going to be? if you want to position -- pivot to asia and cut the defense budget you tell me how those to add that because i can't figure it out. >> let me figure -- follow up on a ram point and ask both of you what should be the ultimate subjective of iran be quick should it be a nonnuclear iran? should be regime change? can we live with his government in iran if it is not pursuing a nuclear weapon? >> the president said that he would not accept iran with a nuclear weapon and there a lot of other issues on the agenda with iran, supporting international terrorism, cracking down on his people and the issues we are most focused on. among many it is the nuclear issue and preventing iran from having a nuclear weapon. now the governor has taken a multitude of positions on my red includin

ronald reagan and president carter. and for that one they offered me a seat in the hall and i took it and it turned out to be the worst place in the world to watch a presidential debate because everyone in america of course is watching it on tv and you get a different perspective in the hall. it's not -- in many events it's great to be inside where it's actually happening. i think for a journalist that's not the case for these presidential debates. every debate since then i've covered off tv. i'll be in the media filing center watching those tv screens and frantically trying to meet my first deadline when it comes up and wanting to see the debate just as american voters will be seeing it. >> when is the first time you have to file tonight? >> sadly the first time i have to file tonight is 9:35. so that will be a pretty tentative story because the debate will have just begun. and so -- but then i have another hour before my second edition deadline so that story should be able to be a little more conclusive. >> we have a couple more minutes left with you. let's get a call from there

. when the american military under the despise ronald reagan laid to rest once and for all the hope of communism liberals were deprived of a lot of totalitarian control which they had sympathy. failing to respect the malta culturist ideas the provide the basis for their whole will -- their whole world view. equality of cultures, the american soldier demonstrates the rifle in the a marty, the intrinsic superiority. where the liberal pays lip service to the validity of all mores and believes the american soldier embarks upon missions every data forcibly eliminate tierney, and where the liberal subscribers to accretive american impotence and our inability to change the world, the american soldier demonstrates that american power changes the world for the better every single day. peace -- ps through superior firepower is a creed of the american soldier. give peace a chance is, well, it really crappy song by a guy who also a vengeance no heaven and the countries. the american soldier could never imagine living in the world, and that is another thing about liberals and the they don't even

the carter/reagan race play out in the polls right here, their one and only debate. if you look at it, ronald reagan had come from behind and moved slightly ahead of jimmy carter. the question was he up to it, was this actor ready to be president? a lot of people think this was the moment that sealed the deal. >> are you better off than you were four years ago? is it easier for you to go and buy things in the stores than it was four years ago? is there more or less unemployment in the country than there was four years ago? is america as respected? >> fast forward to 2,000, bush/gore race, know how close it was at the end. look at the gyrations, right after the republican convention, george w. bush goes up and al gore gets back in the hunt. come to the first debate with gore ahead but this is when he sighed so much, look, al gore comes down and in the second debate, that moment you talked about a few moments ago, rob portman filling in for al gore prepared george w. bush for this. >> that's what the question in this campaign is about. it's not only what your philosophy and what's your position

done before. >> it's been done a couple times. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan -- >> okay. good morning. >> i missed that one. >> good morning. welcome to "morning joe." it's friday, october 12th. with us on set, we have the former governor of vermont and former chairman of the democratic national committee, howard dean. and contributor to "newsweek" and the daily beast and former adviser to george w. bush, mark mckinnon. >> wait. no, hold on. what is that, willie? >> it's fair to call it the mexican scarf. >> willie and i both were thinking about wearing that yesterday, but we were afraid we'd come to the set wearing the same thing. >> yes. maybe mark feels the need to distract this morning. >> distracting. let's see what al hunt is wearing this morning. >> washington executive -- oh -- of bloomberg news, al hunt. oh, my goodness. and from the site of last night's debate in zanvilldanvil kentucky, mark halperin. >> i think i speak for everybody when i say this morning we are all washington senators. >> we are. >> i'm still not going to call them the nats. we had a debate,

ronald reagan really was the gold standard of how to deliver a line during a debate. let's watch one of those. >> governor reagan, smank, began his political career campaigning around this nation against medicare. >> there you go again. are you better off than you were four years ago? >> we sort of combined two memorable moments there. there you go again, which was folks were and approachable and then are you better off? >> two great moments and reagan really decisively beat carter. there you go again was a way for reagan to quickly say to the audience like president carter is not in command of the facts. are you better off than four years ago captured in a nutshell are you better off in the economy from 1976 to 1908 was perfect. >> trying to spot the zingers to see if anybody had comedic one liners, again reagan did that against mondale. let's watch that moment. >> i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. >> classic, right, nic? >> it was wonderful. because ronald reagan did poorly in the fi

called last year and talked to susan on october 6 last year. to date is set aside by congress and ronald reagan in 1983 to honor the largest minority group in this country, it is national german americans a day. i want to say hello to 60 million americans of german descent and work ethic. much of the industries from pennsylvania dutch country to minnesota involve them. there are many german companies that have thrived in this country. host: what is your job caller: status currently unemployed six months. in construction. obama, in 2009, had the third highest legal immigration rate ever with 1.3 million immigrants. our legal immigration has not been tamped down at all. legal immigration has slowed down. it is interesting that we added three or 4 million people to our country probably in the last four years. in our history, whenever there was a depression, especially the great depression, we stop to immigration. we closed the borders. we have hundreds of thousands of people in bread lines and you could that have extra people coming here. host: what caused you to not work in construction an

at a fundraiser said he seemed a lot like ronald reagan and that's a person a lot of people in the republican party hope that he can replicate of success of. >> thank you for your time. let me bring you back in. why now? if this is something that seems to be resonating with voters at least at these rallies, why wait until 30 days out? why didn't we see this governor romney a month ago? >> i think part of it is that after the democratic convention, we saw a little bit of an uptick in optimism in the electorate. we saw the president's job approval numbers get better. so it's not just enough for republicans to say, things are going poorly, we have to make a change. it has to be mitt romney connecting on a personal level. convincing people that his vision for the next four years is better than the president's vision. just the we're off on the wrong track is not going to work under the new circumstances post convention. >> all right. we're going it take a quick break, "washington post" writer and rothenberg political report stick around. >>> more bad news for drivers, the price at the pump continu

and even bill clinton. they also threw ronald reagan in there. but it was interesting to note the foreign policy team for mitt romney talking about democratic presidents after that debate performance last week when a lot of pundits on the right and the left were sensing that mitt romney was moving to the middle on domestic policy. we might hear some of that on foreign policy later on today, soledad. >> interesting point. jim acosta for us this morning, thank you, jim. >>> a recent poll shows president obama has a seven percentage point lead over mitt romney when it comes to who would handle foreign policy better. let's get to richard williamson, former ambassador to the united nations for special political affairs. mitt romney's senior foreign policy adviser. nice to see you, sir. thank you for talking with us. let's focus on some -- actually what jim acosta just said. let's talk about tha first. as you heard there was a phone call with some of the foreign policy advisers. and when they listed sort of the foreign policy that maybe mitt romney would be, i guess, fashioning his own after th

president since ronald reagan in 1986. there are no moderates in iran. >> well, you basically say, here's what you can have. and by the way, we need inspections and intrusive inspections. unless you give us the confidence that you're not cheating, we're not going to accept the deal. you put it on the table and say if you accept such a deal, you'll get real economic help. if you don't, you're going to continue to feel the pinch. >> richard, let me ask you on october 9th, 2012, i've been asking this question for two years. there are, of course, moderates in iran. half of the country is weste westernized, highly educated. and there are moderates, but they don't run the country. on october 9th, 2012, who runs iran? do we still not know? >> in the intelligence business, iran is right up there with north korea as probably the hardest targets to really understand. >> certainly not ahmadinejad. >> no. supreme leader. >> it's the supreme leader along with -- >> the mullulahs. >> aren't they intimidated by the revolutionary guard? >> you've got the people financially essential to the regime. seve

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was trying to get the point across that he can lead the way ronald reagan led, and that is with america in front and not from behind. >> well said. well said, senator. >> i'm wondering, senator, whether we start to see some shift in sentiment, this has been a strong suit for the president i guess after the death or killing of osama bin laden, most people thought that maybe governor romney should stick with domestic issues. you think this is a fertile field for making some gains? >> oh, i think so, and if you'll indulge me for a second this libya debacle where five days after what was clearly an al qaeda affiliated terrorist attack, they send out our u.n. ambassador to tell everybody, on all major news shows that this was a spoon stainio iospontaneo demonstration bred by a hateful video. you don't have spontaneous demonstrations with mortars and rocket-propelled grenades. look, iraq, because we didn't leave a residual force behind, al qaeda's back and iranians are exerting their influence. in afghanistan because the president overruled his military advisers time after time we're seeing t

. >> no president has had real organization authority since ronald reagan. i would think that needs to come back. i would go so far as to put some back of authority that was lost after the nixon era. but congress has got to help. some committees in congress are not very good managers of departments is got to be an accommodation here, but you cannot leave the size and the structure of the government we've got in place. this big government that functions in the 19th century organization model, and by the availability of 21st century technology, everybody is automating everything, and it's very painful, very slow. you look at the demographics of the federal workforce. they are aging. attrition would take care a lot of this is a good be accompanied by rigorous management. i mean, president obama prior to becoming president, largest management he had ostensibly the senate office. that's not exactly, you know, great training to run one of the largest enterprises known to m man. [inaudible] >> well, i'm very partial of. [laughter] >> there's a lot of ways -- [inaudible] [laughter] >> next question. the ge

're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan -- >> reporter: it is a busy day today for three of the four guys on the ticket. mitt romney is on his way from north carolina, in virginia later this evening, he meets up with paul ryan for a big joint event in ohio. joe biden is going to paul ryan's home state of wisconsin. meanwhile, president obama actually has sort of a down day at the white house, though he does have a dinner with a bunch of campaign supporters. matt? >> chuck todd, thank you very much. rachel maddow is the host of msnbc's rachel maddow show. coffee is on me. going s debate, everybody said the goal of joe biden was to steady the ship, calm the nerves on the democratic side. did he do that? >> absolutely. democrats are psyched joe biden had a great night. you said at the top there was no clear winner and that may be, but it was important for the democrats that paul ryan not be the clear winner. most democrats, i don't know about independents, but most democrats think joe biden won. >> i think there's no winner because of joe biden's style, his demeanor. if we learned anything,

actual. >> i never been done. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates and increased growth. ronald reagan -- >> now you're jack kennedy. >> reporter: well, it's a busy day for three of the four guys on the ticket here. you've got mitt romney who starts his day in north carolina, hits virginia and meets up though with paul ryan in the evening for a joint event in ohio. joe biden, he's going to paul ryan's home state in wisconsin. president obama actually has sort of a down day at the white house, though he does have dinner with a bunch of campaign supporters. matt? >> all right, chuck todd, thank you very much. rachel maddow is the left of "the rachel maddow show" on msnbc and going into this joe biden needed to steady the ship and calm the democratic side. did he accomplish that? >> democrats are psyched that he had such a good night. you said at the throb was no clear winner, and it may be, but it was very important for the democrats paul ryan not be the clear winner. most democrats, i don't know about independent winners, probably think that joe biden clearly won >> i think the analysis

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